UPDATE June 04/10: Gary McHale advised me some time ago that he has evidence proving that on Dec 28/06 two OPP officers travelled to New York state to meet with a native private investigator named Jon Sabin regarding McHale’s activities in Caledonia. Immediately afterwards he began the defamation campaign discussed in this article to smear us with false allegations of being white supremacists.
In addition to spreading these lies on discussion boards Sabin also created a phony ‘white supremacist’ website and posted racist material as if it was written by Gary McHale. Sabin’s identity as the creator was discovered when York Regional Police investigated McHale’s complaint regarding identity theft. This matter was mentioned in an ongoing lawsuit against OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino for defamation: see clause 157 on page 45 of this statement of claim [PDF, 49p].
Journalists can contact Gary McHale (email@example.com) for a copy of the York Regional Police report. A transcript of OPP testimony confirming the OPP visit with Sabin is available here:
- Caledonia Victims Project: R. v. Gary McHale (Counselling Mischief Not Committed) See ‘Det. Murray Testimony…’ section.
Note that the OPP refused repeated requests by McHale to turn over the audio tape of their interview with Sabin. McHale alleges that his comments were very selectively quoted during Detective Murray’s testimony.
The charge against McHale was stayed by the Crown following the laying of Obstructing Charges against two senior officers involved in his case. See link above.
UPDATED 0007 EST Jan 17/07: VoiceofCanada.ca apologizes for inadvertently accusing ‘Ed’ of creating the phoney neo-Nazi site that supporters of the Caledonia criminals tried to link me with prior to the October 15, 2007 March for Freedom. Please see details of my apology below at the bottom of the post.
Once again we get to stroll through the ‘How Low Can They Go?’ Department. It’s going to be fun – I promise – but you’ll have to watch out for the slime…
I received a call from Gary McHale this morning to let me know that someone on an online forum is claiming that he is working with both the Hamilton Spectator and the OPP to expose our non-existent connections to white supremacist organizations. Apparently, this person has stated that I am a member of a hate group and that I brought a group of white supremacists into Caledonia for the October 15/06 March for Freedom.
Long time readers may recall an article I posted on VoC called, “Caledonia criminals sink to a new low – if that’s possible” in which I relate the rather amusing tale (it wasn’t funny at the time) of how a supporter of the DCE criminals took my March For Freedom video, posted it on a phoney neo-Nazi site created just one day before the March, and then went into the forums to ‘expose’ me as a racist. I called the owner of the web domain and told him the allegations were false and asked him to take the post down.
Well, it’s that time again – a few days before a March for Freedom event, and the people who would have you believe that it’s OK to use violence to get what they want are at it – again – trying to do everything they can to discredit us with phoney accusations of connections to hate groups. Man, don’t they ever get tired of this? That’s the best they’ve got? No real arguments? Just silly, unfounded name-calling from anonymous sources?
OK…here’s the story – again. The names and dates may be different, but – believe me -the ending’s the same…
Yesterday (Jan 15/07), I was interviewed by Marissa Nelson from the Hamilton Spectator for about an hour. She told me that the purpose of the interview was to get my personal perspective on Gary McHale since I have spent quite a bit of time with him and working with him in the fight against Two Tier Justice. This was to be research for an upcoming interview with Gary called, “Ten Questions for Gary McHale.” Marissa recently wrote a similar article for the Spec called, “Five Questions for Julian Fantino.” (I didn’t ask her why Gary gets 10 questions vs. Fantino’s five, but the disparity didn’t escape me. :-))
We covered a lot of ground, so I’m going to reconstruct our conversation as best I can with respect to the alleged ‘hate’ connections. I didn’t record it, but perhaps Marissa did. I will be as accurate as I can, subject to her recording, if available:
At one point in the interview, she asked me if I had met any members of a particular hate group that is active in London. I was a little taken aback by the question, but I told her that I’d read about them in the London Free Press, but I certainly never knowingly met anyone connected to them or any other hate group.
She asked if we had tried to get support from “outside groups or organizations.” I explained that I thought it was a good idea, but we’d been too busy to do much in the way of that. I told her that we had sent news releases to the Royal Canadian Legion, and that we were in the process of creating a new organization that would raise funds to support people and projects that were trying to fight for justice and equal rights.
She then suggested that perhaps a certain individual and his group could help since he had linked to my post called, “13 Reasons why you need to be in Caledonia, Ontario on January 20/07.” I thought she was being helpful, so I asked her for the website address and began writing it down. I asked her what kind of organization it was. She said, “Well, they are advocates for free speech.” I asked, “It isn’t a hate group, is it?” She seemed unsure at first, and then said, “Well, yes…it could be.” I got the impression that she had the website up and was looking at it for the first time.
I replied that we wouldn’t want to taint what we were doing by having any connections to such a group. I told her that what we’re doing is about ‘equality’ not ‘supremacy’ and my idea of the type of an organization to approach would be one like the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.
For those who aren’t familiar with the CCLA, here’s some info from their site:
“Since then  the CCLA has spoken out on hundreds of issues, from film censorship to the rights of welfare recipients not to be harassed by government officials, from forced religious teaching in the schools to the rights of political groups to demonstrate in the streets.
“Over the years, active CCLA members have included some of Canada’s most well known names in law, journalism, politics, the arts, labour, business and other fields. Our founding president was former Ontario judge and lieutenant-governor J. Keiller MacKay, and early activists included prominent journalists Pierre Berton, June Callwood and Barbara Frum. Political leaders such as Allan Blakeney and Dalton Camp have been active as have top names in the legal field, such as Louise Arbour and Edward Greenspan.
“The fight against abuse of state authority has not always won popularity contests for the CCLA, but the association has earned widespread respect for its principled stands on such issues as censorship, capital punishment, and police powers [author’s emphasis].
“Our strategy has always been to raise hell without breaking the law.”
Hmmmm…sounds a lot like what Gary McHale is doing. How come nobody’s calling the CCLA racists?
Back to the story…
I also told Marissa that, in the whole time I have been involved in the fight against Two Tier Justice that I have never – even once – heard Gary McHale make a racial slur against native people.
[Click these links to read Gary’s views on racism: “Jan 8/07 – Native Protesters and KKK share ideology” “Jan 1/07 – Christian Extremists=Muslim Extremists=Native Extremists.“]
Marissa and I talked about other stuff like when I first met Gary; do we disagree on anything? (Sometimes) Would I consider him my friend? (Yes) How I would describe him as a person? (focussed, honest, un-intimidatable, in-corruptible, well-read) What are our respective strengths? (Gary is a brilliant, logical, strategic thinker who knows what to do today to accomplish while I am a big picture person who likes to wonder, what if?).
We also talked about Gary’s philosophy that he can’t control what’s going to happen tomorrow, but we can control how we use it to our advantage. For example, thanks to people making outrageous and unfounded allegations against us, Gary’s been able to get on CHTV today (Jan 16/07), and he’s scheduled to do another TV interview on Friday.
Plus, I’m getting to write this post to remind readers exactly what kind of twisted tactics our opponents will use to try to keep us from standing up against the violent criminals who have terrorized Caledonia. It also reminds them that we will not be intimidated into abandoning our fight against Two Tier Justice.
As mentioned in the beginning of this post, the individual slandering us claims that he is working with the Hamilton Spectator and the OPP to expose our non-existent connections to hate groups. I have been in contact with the Hamilton Spectator to make them aware that this disgusting tactic was used against us before. Here is what I have been told by a source at the Spec:
“…the kinds of questions you’re talking about – combined with these postings you mention (this is the first I’ve heard of them) – mean we’d be irresponsible not to check that out. I also am well aware that linking people to white racist movements is a handy smear tactic – I spent six years or so investigating Canada’s racist right wing , so I’m well aware of that. I’m sure Marissa is too. I wouldn’t be too upset by the questions – asking questions is how we separate fact from fiction.”
To our supporters, and the people of Caledonia – don’t be too angry. While we never like to hear our good names slandered, it is amusing to watch these people cover themselves in slime as they destroy their own credibility in the process. They never seem to learn, so let’s sit back and watch the fun – don’t miss CHTV news tonight.
VoC NOTE: During the footage located at the CHTV link above, Gary McHale names an individual who he says is responsible for spreading the slander against us through the occupation-related forums. VoC is not in possession of any evidence that directly names this individual. VoC does, however, have a copy of a forum discussion where some bizarre and false allegations against McHale and I are made by the moderator of the forum known as “Drupjohn.” From the content, it appears they were provided by a forum member named ‘Skywoman.’ We will be contacting ‘Drupjohn’ formally after the next March for Freedom event on January 20th to ask him to print an apology and remove the statements from his forum.
Mark Vandermaas, Editor
Voice of Canada Apology – we were wrong and we’re sorry.
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Mark…. You really should get your facts straight before you post things and end up looking like an ass. You posted, and I quote
“a phoney neo-Nazi site created just one day before the March, and then went into the forums to ‘expose’ me as a racist. Unfortunately for them, they got caught with their pants down when the other members of the forum ran him out of the forum”.
The truth is, I received an e-mail accusing McHale of the association with the racist site. I posted a question and the info about it trying to get clarification as to the legitimacy of that claim and was verbally assaulted by McHale, [xxxxx] and you. I never claimed to know who made the site, I never accused anyone of belonging to it and I sure as hell was not kicked off any boards anywhere because of it. To date, both McHale and [xxxxx]have admitted that I had nothing to do with it. You though seem to think it only furthers your goal by continually posting this but I can tell you right now that the majority of posters, both the 49th parallel group and the reclam group, know I had nothing to do with it.
VoC REPLY: Hi Ed. Thank you for writing and clarifying. I have no desire to do to others what has been so viciously done to us. After discussing your letter at length with Gary McHale, let me address the issues that you raised as well as your own understanding of what happened. If you think I’ve got it wrong, we’ll try again. Here goes:
1. The key issue here is that you are saying that I incorrectly accused you in my original post and in this post as being the one who created the phoney neo-Nazi site and then was ‘run out of the site’ by other forum members in disgrace.
You are 100% correct in saying that, after you took a lot of heat on the forum when somone accused you of creating the site, and said that you were quitting the forum, I did believe that it was you that created the site. When I posted the original story, I included a link to the thread which would have, in turn, led people to believe that you created the phoney site when in fact, as I have come to believe only today, that you did not.
2. I would like to sincerely apologize for not being as accurate as I try to be when writing VoiceofCanada, and I am very sorry if my mistake caused you embarassment.
3. I thank you for bringing my mistake to the attention of me and my readers.
4. I will correct this post and the original post ASAP and I will post these comments at the bottom of both posts rather than as comments. If you still feel they are not accurate, please contact me and we’ll try again.
In fairness to VoC, I would like to bring the following to your attention:
1. You said you were “verbally assaulted” by McHale, [xxxxx] and me. I have never posted on the 49th Parallel. I did complete a registration form after the neo-Nazi site discussion, but I have never actually posted. In fact, I can’t recall ever having visited the forum even once after registering. This, of course, meant that I was not privy to the subsequent discussions and exchanges that would have revealed that you were not the one who created the site.
In conversation, Gary sometimes mentions what is being discussed on the 49th Parallel as I understand he was very active on the forum prior to being banned for what he says were false allegations that he ‘threatened’ the mayor because he said that he would work against her in the next election. As someone outside the forum I find it hard to keep up with what Gary tells me is going on inside the forum, and it is possible that he did mention it at some point in passing. I hope you can believe that, had I known earlier, I would have corrected my posts. It never occurred to me to return to check back on the 49th to follow the thread because, as I recall, you said you were quitting the forum.
In summary, I did not verbally attack you on the 49th because I have never posted there.
2. You said that Gary McHale was one of those who ‘verbally assaulted’ you. Gary has advised me that you have admitted that he never accused you of being connected to creation of the phoney neo-Nazi site. He says that it was [xxxxx] and only [xxxxx] who accused you of this. Gary also advises that he has posted on the ‘reclamation’ site that he believes that you had nothing to do with it.
In summary, it is clear to me that Gary McHale does not believe that you had anything to do with creation of the site, and he says that he never accused you of doing so. Do you have any links/posts etc. that would prove otherwise? If you do, I will be happy to review them and question Gary. I must tell you that, in all the time I have known Gary, he has never lied to me or misled me in any way, so – in the absence of evidence to the contrary – I am inclined to take his word.
3. You said, “I sure as hell was not kicked off any boards anywhere because of it [creating the site]” I can understand how you would think that I meant that you had been ‘kicked off’ or ‘banned’ because of my use of the words that you were “ran out of the forum.” My recollection is that you were being accused by other forum members, that you were very angry at the accusations, and that you said you were quitting the forum. This is why I used a phrase like “ran off” rather than ‘kicked out.’ Frankly, I’m not sure the distinction matters – especially to you – since I do now believe that you did not create the phoney site, and you left the forum in justifiable anger at the accusations.
Ed, I hope I have now set the record straight for all to see – that Gary believes as do I that you had no connection to the creation of the phoney neo-nazi site and I hope you will forgive me for getting ‘it’ wrong. I really do try to be as accurate as possible, but I did fall short on this one. It seems that both of us were mixed up on some ‘facts’, but mine was the greater error. Thanks so much for writing. VoiceofCanada is better because you did, and I appreciate it.
Mark Vandermaas, Editor