UPDATE 2156 EST Feb 14/07: VoC reply to concerns/questions of a McMaster University student. See comment below from ‘Proud McMaster Student.’
UPDATE 1140 EST Feb 14/07: 1. Blogger goes to defence of McMaster critics. 2. Audio recordings of Hazel Hill meeting.
VoiceofCanada sent the letter below by both email and fax to the President/Vice-Chancellor of McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario after a Professor Sorger responded to a Caledonia resident who was concerned about the scheduled appearance of Hazel Hill at the University on Feb 12/07.
It appeared to me that Dr. Sorger was not only buying into propaganda that the Caledonia terror campaign was ‘peaceful’ but that it was justified because of our country’s treatment of Aboriginal peoples.
The professor also seemed a little too willing to believe – and repeat – ‘misinformation’ about Gary McHale (and me, by association) with respect to our non-existent alliances with racist organizations.
[Click on the photo to see VoC’s appearance on A-Channel News the day prior to the Jan 20/07 March for Freedom event. DIAL-UP (2:10 mins)] =======================================
February 9, 2007
President and Vice-Chancellor
1280 Main Street East
Hamilton, Ontario L8S 4L8
email: pgeorgeatmcmaster.ca, presdntatmcmaster.ca
Dear Mr. George:
1. My name is Mark Vandermaas. I am the editor of VoiceofCanada.ca, and – along with Mr. Gary McHale – am a co-organizer of recent March for Freedom events in Caledonia. On December 16, 2006 Mr. McHale and I were arrested by the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) for trying to raise a Canadian flag, a right guaranteed to us by the Supreme Court of Canada in a 1993 decision in the case of Ramsden v. Peterborough (City).
2. I am writing today in an attempt to advise you of my concern that I may be slandered at an upcoming presentation at the University. In a reply to a Caledonia resident who was concerned about the appearance of Hazel Hill and Chief Allen McNaughton at McMaster scheduled for February 12, 2007, Dr. Sorger said the following:
“The meeting is not about hate mongering,…”
“I have also seen those same people at the McHale rallies, where there is a faithful following of white supremacists, who have the nerve to wave my flag.”
One blog recently reprinted a Jan 20/07 article by Hazel Hill in which she is quoted as saying the following:
“I had thoughts about the vision of Gary McHale once again coming into the area in an attempt to instigate violence…”
“I thought about the people at Kanonhstaton who continually uphold the peace, and the strength that is required when idiots like McHale are allowed to continue with their white supremacist campaign of hatred and racism.”
I am a former Canadian soldier and United Nations peacekeeper. I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of a white supremacist organization and, to the best of my knowledge, I have never even met a member of such an organization. I also have a Level II (Secret) Security Clearance from the Canadian government. I believe in the Rule of Law and Equality before that law, so the concept of racial supremacy is contrary to my beliefs and my words and my actions with respect to the situation in Caledonia.
With respect to Mr. McHale, in all the time I have known this man, I have never heard him make a single slur against native peoples or any other group in society.
Despite all evidence to the contrary, supporters of the Douglas Creek Estates occupiers as well as certain officials within the Ontario Provincial Police and the Ontario Provincial Police Association (OPPA) have made outrageous allegations against us that cannot be substantiated because they simply are not true. In the coming weeks we will be taking appropriate legal action against these groups, individuals and their sponsors in order to mitigate the damage done to our reputations.
Please be advised that, should Hazel Hill attempt to link me in any way – directly or indirectly – to white supremacist groups or claim that I am deliberately attempting to provoke violence and/or hatred, or that I have committed criminal offences in Caledonia, or should she make any other untrue statements about me during her presentation at McMaster University on February 12, 2007, I will instruct my solicitor to take whatever action he deems appropriate against Dr. Sorger, and the University. I would expect Mr. McHale to take similar action.
3. In the interest of education and understanding, I would strongly encourage both you and Professor Sorger to visit http://www.VoiceofCanada.ca and read the following posts:
Jan 21/07: OPP & OPPA vs. Supreme Court of Canada and the Charter of Rights & Freedoms (link is on right side bar; scroll down to see)
Jan 04/07: Does past oppression justify present violence? VoC gets ‘real’
(to locate this story, type the title into the search box)
While you’re at VoiceofCanada you may also wish to see the photos from the ‘peaceful’ Caledonia occupation. Just click on ‘CALEDONIA PHOTOS’ in the top menu. Be sure to read the Class Action lawsuit document while you’re there. I think you will be as puzzled as I am that McMaster University would invite anyone who has tried to justify the lawlessness depicted while libeling law-abiding citizens who seek only to restore the Rule of Law in Ontario.
While I do support the right of your University to encourage discussion and learning, I would appreciate that it be done with at least the appearance of fairness. I know I can speak for Gary McHale when I say that we would be pleased to organize a fact-based presentation for and by Caledonia’s residents should you wish.
Note that this letter will be posted at http://www.voiceofcanada.ca.
Thank you for listening.
Mark Vandermaas, Editor
Box 210-1326 Huron Street
London, ON N5V 2E2
[VoC email address deleted – please use form below if you wish to provide VoiceofCanada a comment on this post/letter]
CC: Dr G. Sorger, by email only to: sorgeratmcmaster.ca
Gary McHale, by email only to: infoatcaledoniawakeupcall.com
Reply from Mr. George, Feb 09/07 1606 EST:
Good afternoon,I have received a number of emails today from people interested in a discussion taking place at McMaster this coming Monday regarding the dispute in Caledonia. The emails represent a broad range of opinions from those who don?t feel the event should be held, those who feel it will be an unbalanced presentation, and to those who applaud giving a forum to the guest speakers.
This range of responses demonstrates again that reaching consensus on these types of issues can be very difficult. It also reinforces the need for respectful discussion, debate and dialogue. That does not mean, however, that every event is going to give equal representation to all sides of an argument. The perspective to be delivered on Monday night was of particular interest to the organizers. Many of you have shared your thoughts with professor George Sorger on whether this is the best approach to take and he is aware of your concerns.
While universities are natural locations for public discussion, having such an event on campus does not and should not be equated with the University as an institution taking a stand on the issue in Caledonia. I have said before that McMaster has not and will not take a position on the dispute and we are not changing that view.
Individuals are free to hold their own opinion. Individuals are also responsible for their own actions. It is my expectation that the discussion on Monday will be conducted in a respectful manner.
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President and Vice-Chancellor
Hamilton, ON L8S 4L8
VoC Reply to Mr. George, Feb 09/07, 1701 EST:
Dear Mr. George:Thank you for taking the time to respond to my email/fax; I do appreciate it.
I completely endorse your institution’s right to hold frank and open and controversial discussions even if the guests are not providing accurate information.
My concern, as an associate/co-organizer of Gary McHale is that the university is allowing a professor to offer a forum to someone who has already made unsubstantiated allegations against Mr. McHale. This same professor apparently shares Ms. Hill’s views and has also passed on the essence of these allegations to at least one member of the public. This causes me great concern as I now have little confidence in Dr. Sorger’s willingness or ability to prevent Ms. Hill from libelling me.
I am also troubled that you failed to address my concern in any way by – for example – assuring me that the University will not tolerate the making of libellous statements by its professors or invited guests.
May I also note that you failed to mention whether or not you or Dr. Sorger had taken the few minutes required to read the VoiceofCanada articles mentioned in my letter. I can only assume that you have not.
In summary, it appears to me that the University is not taking my concern about potential slander very seriously.
Mark Vandermaas, Editor
I spoke to Gary McHale this afternoon. His suggestion was that if McMaster University wants to avoid associating itself with extremists, they might want to read some of Hazel Hill’s other writings. Here are some links:
“Is Canada telling us that they are planning to herd us into their “gas chambers” to continue the Canadian U.S. holocaust? Watch out! You might end up in there yourself.”
“Canada, the lawless nation, has the nerve to call Six Nations “lawless” and terrorists” [It’s calling the kettle black]. We follow the principals of our own law, the Kaierenekowah/Great Law. We never ceded jurisdiction to the Crown. We aren’t “Subjects”. We are “Allies”. [Complete opposites].”
“What part of WE ARE NOT CANADIAN, is it they don’t understand. And how do you get it through their thick skulls that the laws of Canada do not apply. We are a Sovereign Nation.”
“CANADA IS PART OF THE SIX NATIONS TERRITORY!!!!!”
“We just wanted to ensure the many many supporters that we have out there, that our position has not changed, and we are maintaining our peaceful presence on the land.”
[VoC comment: Ms. Hill’s statement re maintaining a ‘peaceful presence’ seems somewhat at odds with the reality as shown in these photos.]
“In spite of all of the attempts by Canada to undermine our authority and to threaten violence in the name of peace, this land reclamation is something they should be proud of because we are being peaceful, we are upholding and respecting our law, and we are upholding our responsiblities to our future generations.”
[VoC comment: Again, Ms. Hill’s idea of ‘being peaceful‘ seems a little extreme to me!]
“Having said that, the first thing I have to take issue with, IS the Federal representatives reason for taking issue with my updates. Their concern was with my use of the word Genocide and how I refer to their actions as “the continuance of the genocidal practices of the Crown”. Well, HELLLLOOOO! Spot it you got it I say. Perhaps they took issue with the fact that it is the TRUTH, and while they might not like it, it is a FACT. One of their legal representatives is apparently Jewish and felt that my use of the word was inappropriate becuase of the suffering of the Jews at the hands of Hitler. Well as a matter of clarification, Hitler studied the Onkwehonweh and while I have been told that he liked how our people lived and how our law worked, he also seen how Western Civilization treated the Onkwehonweh, and he modelled the treatment of the Jews after THAT and so YES!, Geneocide is an ugly word, but no one people can take ownership of the word, and those that do, need to study a bit more of where it comes from and how it even became a word in the english dictionary in the first place. It came from the treatment of the Onkwehonweh by those who invaded our homelands and tried to wipe us out for their own benefit and gain. So as far as I’m concerned, the Crown IS continuing with its genocidal practices because of its insistance on thinking it has some sort of governance over our people, which they do not; and by their refusal to uphold the Treaties to which their ancestors swore to, which they are obligated to do. ”
“Along side of Gary McHale are the homeowners who claim that the “Native’s from the Site” broke into their home and vandalized it. They have Mayor Trainer of Caledonia and MP Toby Barrett going on national television, and in their house of commons blaming our people for the vandalism and continuing with their claims that there is no peace within Caledonia, and that they are constantly being terrorized. It does’nt take a genious to figure out that perhaps there is some dirty pool going on with this so-called break in. First of all, if there was truly a break-in and vandalism, WHY would you compromise the evidence by inviting CH TV Channel 11 in to take footage, and have half the neighbourhood in there trapsing through and eliminating any chance of the police being able to do a thorough investigation because you’ve compromised the crime scene. Also, if it was one of our people from the site, there should be alot of mud in the crime scene and foot prints leading to and from the house as they claim the ‘individuals’ ran out the back when they got home and went into the reclamation site. Our men did our own investigation and can clearly see there were no footprints leading to or from the house from the site, and for all of those who came to the site when the homeowners had the media and their supporters there claiming the natives had broken in, calling us names and holding signs that read “Peaceful People my Ass”, everyone who was on the site had their shoe sizes enhanced by a couple of sizes from the mud that caked on their shoes from walking in the field next to the house, so don’t tell me that anyone from the site did this. It was a staged set up, and poorly done I might add. They’re either stupid or think we are. Our people are fully prepared to co-operate with the police to ensure that this is investigated thoroughly because we know it wasn’t any of our people from the site, and we know a set up when we see one.”
[VoC comment: Sure, the residents destroyed their own home just to make the DCE criminals and their supporters look bad! Give me a break. CHTV Dec 17/06 (2:22 mins)]
“The protesters got angry when the OPP stopped them from hanging [their dirty laundry] across the road from our site. They thought they had a right to hang their Canadian flag on land they know is not “Canadian” soil.”
Feb 09/07: KyleStubbins.com – McMaster Professor discusses issue with Caledonia resident Kyle takes on Dr. Sorger for his ‘defensive’ stance with a resident who asked if they were going to allow the Caledonia residents to provide their perspective at the Feb 12/07 presentation at McMaster by Hazel Hill and other pro-occupation speakers. Kyle also took the good professor to task for his attempt to link white supremacists to Gary McHale and the March for Freedom events. Very nicely done!
Feb 12/07: Audio Recordings from McMaster presentation –
1. Intro – George Sorger
2. Chief Allan McNaughton
3. Chief Leroy Hill
4. Hazel Hill
5. Nation to Nation
6. Great Law of Peace
7. World Comparison
8. United Steel Workers
9. Confederacy Negotiators
10. Canadian Flag Upside Down
11. It’s Not Negotiable
12. Archaeology and Development
13. Gary McHale
14. I’m Mohawk
16. We let you stay